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328 FOUS30 KWBC 112020 QPFERD Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 419 PM EDT Tue Apr 11 2023 Day 1 Valid 16Z Tue Apr 11 2023 - 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE URBANIZED AREAS OF SOUTHEAST FLORIDA FROM FORT LAUDERDALE SOUTH... ...16Z Update... ...South Florida... In coordination with the MFL/Miami, FL forecast office, a Slight Risk was introduced for much of the urbanized area of southeast Florida from Ft. Lauderdale south with this update. 24 hour rainfall totals in this area have exceeded 5 inches in some localized areas, with more widespread rainfall totals over 4 inches between Ft. Lauderdale and Miami. CAMs guidance this morning shows some potential for additional rainfall up to 4 inches in many of the same areas through tonight, though with greater likelihood from Miami south through Homestead. In this area, 24 hour totals up through the time of this writing were generally in the 2 to 4 inch range. The MFL forecast office has reported widely scattered flooding ongoing across this area due to the repeated rounds of heavy rain. A stalled out front draped south of the Keys is the primary forcing for the heavy rain in this area. Light east to northeasterly flow is resulting in training convection moving in off the Atlantic. Recent convective flareups have produced rainfall rates to 1.5 inches/hour, but those have been short-lived and very localized. Thus, the primary flooding threat is longer-term, as repeated rounds of convection with rainfall to this intensity has been causing flooding in Miami and the surrounding area. Since the front isn't moving, these same areas are unlikely to get much break in the rainfall through tonight. Instability will be relatively constant through tonight, and in fact HREF probabilities suggest the greatest likelihood for heavy rain in this area will be overnight. Thus, see no reason to think the current radar presentation of widespread light to moderate rain with embedded heavier elements is likely to change much through tonight. ...Southern Louisiana... No changes were made to the Marginal Risk area in southern Louisiana. CAMs guidance remains in reasonable agreement that most of the heavier rain that has the potential to cause localized flooding will occur overnight tonight. Isolated very light rain is occurring over portions of the Marginal Risk area, so unlike in Florida, recent rainfall in this area is not a significant contributing factor to the flooding potential. As an upper level low over the area cuts off from the flow and intensifies tonight, it will draw more Gulf moisture and heavier rain northward from the Gulf into southern Louisiana tonight, which will cause the locally heavy rain. Of note, quite a few river gauges upstream in northern LA/MS/AR are in minor flood stage, and as such, the main stem rivers are swollen and are unlikely to be much help draining any localized flooding from the heavy rain. Despite reasonable CAMs agreement, it's worth noting that there remains quite a bit of variability model-to-model as to how far north the heavy rainfall threat gets, with any southward adjustments diminishing the potential flash flooding threat. Wegman ...Previous Discussion... ...Southern Louisiana... Overall model agreement is pretty good with the evolution of the closed 850-250mb closed low near the central Gulf Coast today into tonight. However still seeing some spread with the low level mesoscale features, which will likely be the main driver of how much heavy rain makes it onshore during the day 1 period. The bulk of the most intense convection will stay over the open waters, however it does appear likely that at least some heavier convective activity will impact portions of southern LA today into tonight. 00z HREF probabilities of exceeding 3" get as high as 40-70% along coastal areas, and this seems to align fairly well with the global model consensus as well...and fits with HREF instability forecasts. This area is hard to flood, and this rainfall may come periodically though the period, so even with the potential for 3"+ amounts, think a Marginal risk will suffice. Further north towards New Orleans, probabilities of exceeding 3" are closer to 5-10%, which also seems reasonable. Will keep the Marginal risk this far north to account for this low threat of heavy rainfall, as amounts of this magnitude would likely pose a localized urban flood risk if it materializes. ...Southeast Florida... Areas of heavy rainfall are again likely today across portions of southeast Fl into the FL Keys. The better corridor of instability shifts a bit south compared to Monday, so also expecting the favored corridor of heavy rainfall to shift southward. The environmental ingredients for heavy rainfall look pretty good...with low level easterly convergent flow, instability of ~1000 J/KG, PWs getting towards the 75th-90th percentile, and low level easterly winds with mid/upper level westerly winds favoring slow cell motions. HREF neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 5" are as high as 60-90% over the Keys, with 8"+ probabilities over 20%. Given the ingredients and decent HREF performance Monday over southeast FL, hard to argue much with this output. Now whether these more extreme rainfall amounts end up over a Key or over water remains unclear, but pretty confident in areal averaged rainfall of 2-3" over the Keys, and there will likely be pockets of 5"+ amounts in the vicinity. Localized flash flooding is probable with this activity today into tonight. The Marginal does extend north towards Miami as well...as even though probabilities of heavy amounts are lower here, this urban corridor is more susceptible to flooding. So this extension accounts for this susceptibility and at least some lower probabilities of 3-5" rainfall amounts today. ...Northern ID into western MT... Pockets of moderate rainfall will be ongoing at 12z this morning. However snow levels will start dropping shortly after 12z, and so no longer seeing enough rainfall potential to justify a Marginal risk, as a large percentage of the QPF today/tonight will be snow or a rain/snow mix. Chenard Day 2 Valid 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 - 12Z Thu Apr 13 2023 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR ATLANTIC COASTAL SOUTHEAST FLORIDA... ...2030Z Update... ...Southeast Florida... The Marginal Risk area for the urban corridor of Southeast Florida has been upgraded to a Slight Risk with this afternoon's update. The meteorological setup continuing into Wednesday is not substantially different from Tuesday. A slow-moving front will continue to produce convection offshore, which will be slowly advected into the coast. Plentiful instability and moisture will persist, so there remains no big reason why anything will change. The good news is that the upper level low over the Gulf will make some progress towards beginning the front's northward movement up the Florida Panhandle on Wednesday by supporting weak surface low development over the northern Gulf near the coast of Louisiana. The induced southerly flow east of the low center will allow the front to finally begin moving. That said, it will take most of the day before significant northward movement will occur. Thus, expect many of the same areas getting drenched today to continue seeing rain on Wednesday. One other small but notable change is that the nearly stationary front stuck for at least the third consecutive day means some of the forcing associated with the front is weaker by Wednesday. Thus, the total amount of rain expected in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area on Wednesday should be a little bit lower than yesterday's or today's daily rainfall totals. The trade-off of course is the area is already experiencing flash flooding and 2-4 inches of rain are still expected on top of what fell both yesterday and what falls today, so FFGs will be very low by the time we get to Wednesday. Thus, the risk assessment for Wednesday is for all intents and purposes the same as today, and therefore required the upgrade. By Wednesday night, the front will finally be moving north, so the rain will slowly end from south to north. ...Central Gulf Coast... Areas of heavy rainfall are likely to be ongoing across the central Gulf Coast, particularly in southeast Louisiana at the start of the day 2 period Wednesday morning. CAMs guidance is still in fair disagreement on how far north and where the heaviest rain will be at that point, and especially as the day goes on. For sure the greatest threat for heavy rain remains in southeastern Louisiana, but there is a fairly substantial gradient in that heavy rain by the time New Orleans gets in on the rainfall. The bayous of central Gulf coast and LA have very high FFGs, and in coordination with the LIX/New Orleans, LA forecast office, opted against any Slight Risk upgrades for this update. That said, the daily totals of over 5 inches along the Mississippi River Delta are concerning, particularly for the potential that FFGs may be exceeded. However, since it will take about that much rain to reach FFGs in that area, the Marginal Risk remains in place as that should only result in isolated flash flooding. Any northward shifts in the guidance would likely require an upgrade, as that would result in more rainfall into the urban areas of New Orleans and possibly Baton Rouge, Mobile, and Pensacola where FFGs are locally lower, while any southward shifts could result in a downgrade as the heaviest rain remains offshore. Certainly this area will continue to be monitored. Wegman ...Previous Discussion... ...Central Gulf Coast... At least some heavy rainfall will move onshore by day 2 (Wed into Wed night) across portions of the central Gulf Coast. By this time the closed deep layer low looks to intensify, with a stronger surface low reflection also expected. We are still seeing some model spread with regards to how far inland and exactly where the heaviest rainfall ends up, but overall guidance is beginning to cluster better. The 00z EC/GFS and 00z GEFS mean and 12z EC mean show pretty good overlap with their QPF forecasts and the Marginal risk outline generally follows the depiction of these solutions. Rainfall of 1-3" seems probable within at least some of the Marginal risk, with some potential for locally higher amounts. Initially most of the better instability will be offshore over the Gulf of Mexico, but it should be gradually pulled northward towards the coast into Wednesday night. However, exactly to what extent and how far north will have an impact on rainfall rates and thus also the flash flood potential. Whether these higher rates end up confined offshore to just along the immediate coast, or if they make it inland will be partially dependent on this northward transport of instability. PWs with this system are not really that impressive as the developing cutoff low will not have a great tropical moisture connection. So while PWs will be high enough for heavy rain, at the moment it does not look like we are looking at very anomalous values (generally below 1.5"). This part of the country is generally hard to flash flood, with high FFG. Combine this with some uncertainty on the extent of onshore instability, and thus coverage of higher rainfall rates, and still think the flash flood risk is mainly localized in nature. Thus for now we will stick with the Marginal risk over this region, although we will continue to monitor trends and still a chance a more focused Slight risk upgrade may eventually be needed. ...Southeast Florida... Another day of heavy rainfall potential over southeast FL as a warm front lifts northward across the area. Given the lifting warm front, both higher instability and PWs will lift northward into more of southeast FL. Thus should be a pretty good combo of moisture and instability, along with slow cell motions given easterly low level flow and westerly mid/upper level flow. Generally it is a slightly modified version of the environment that is over the FL Keys on Tuesday, and this setup supports a localized flash flood risk along the southeast FL urban corridor. Given the ingredients, there is some chance we will eventually need a Slight risk upgrade, however there is enough uncertainty on convective details at the moment to keep it a Marginal. We'll have more high res guidance available to evaluate later today and tonight which may help clarify some of the details. Chenard Day 3 The Day 3 outlook will be updated by 2030Z. Day 1 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt Day 2 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt Day 3 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt $$