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181 FOUS30 KWBC 111551 QPFERD Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 1150 AM EDT Tue Apr 11 2023 Day 1 Valid 12Z Tue Apr 11 2023 - 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE URBANIZED AREAS OF SOUTHEAST FLORIDA FROM FORT LAUDERDALE SOUTH... ...16Z Update... ...South Florida... In coordination with the MFL/Miami, FL forecast office, a Slight Risk was introduced for much of the urbanized area of southeast Florida from Ft. Lauderdale south with this update. 24 hour rainfall totals in this area have exceeded 5 inches in some localized areas, with more widespread rainfall totals over 4 inches between Ft. Lauderdale and Miami. CAMs guidance this morning shows some potential for additional rainfall up to 4 inches in many of the same areas through tonight, though with greater likelihood from Miami south through Homestead. In this area, 24 hour totals up through the time of this writing were generally in the 2 to 4 inch range. The MFL forecast office has reported widely scattered flooding ongoing across this area due to the repeated rounds of heavy rain. A stalled out front draped south of the Keys is the primary forcing for the heavy rain in this area. Light east to northeasterly flow is resulting in training convection moving in off the Atlantic. Recent convective flareups have produced rainfall rates to 1.5 inches/hour, but those have been short-lived and very localized. Thus, the primary flooding threat is longer-term, as repeated rounds of convection with rainfall to this intensity has been causing flooding in Miami and the surrounding area. Since the front isn't moving, these same areas are unlikely to get much break in the rainfall through tonight. Instability will be relatively constant through tonight, and in fact HREF probabilities suggest the greatest likelihood for heavy rain in this area will be overnight. Thus, see no reason to think the current radar presentation of widespread light to moderate rain with embedded heavier elements is likely to change much through tonight. ...Southern Louisiana... No changes were made to the Marginal Risk area in southern Louisiana. CAMs guidance remains in reasonable agreement that most of the heavier rain that has the potential to cause localized flooding will occur overnight tonight. Isolated very light rain is occurring over portions of the Marginal Risk area, so unlike in Florida, recent rainfall in this area is not a significant contributing factor to the flooding potential. As an upper level low over the area cuts off from the flow and intensifies tonight, it will draw more Gulf moisture and heavier rain northward from the Gulf into southern Louisiana tonight, which will cause the locally heavy rain. Of note, quite a few river gauges upstream in northern LA/MS/AR are in minor flood stage, and as such, the main stem rivers are swollen and are unlikely to be much help draining any localized flooding from the heavy rain. Despite reasonable CAMs agreement, it's worth noting that there remains quite a bit of variability model-to-model as to how far north the heavy rainfall threat gets, with any southward adjustments diminishing the potential flash flooding threat. Wegman ...Previous Discussion... ...Southern Louisiana... Overall model agreement is pretty good with the evolution of the closed 850-250mb closed low near the central Gulf Coast today into tonight. However still seeing some spread with the low level mesoscale features, which will likely be the main driver of how much heavy rain makes it onshore during the day 1 period. The bulk of the most intense convection will stay over the open waters, however it does appear likely that at least some heavier convective activity will impact portions of southern LA today into tonight. 00z HREF probabilities of exceeding 3" get as high as 40-70% along coastal areas, and this seems to align fairly well with the global model consensus as well...and fits with HREF instability forecasts. This area is hard to flood, and this rainfall may come periodically though the period, so even with the potential for 3"+ amounts, think a Marginal risk will suffice. Further north towards New Orleans, probabilities of exceeding 3" are closer to 5-10%, which also seems reasonable. Will keep the Marginal risk this far north to account for this low threat of heavy rainfall, as amounts of this magnitude would likely pose a localized urban flood risk if it materializes. ...Southeast Florida... Areas of heavy rainfall are again likely today across portions of southeast Fl into the FL Keys. The better corridor of instability shifts a bit south compared to Monday, so also expecting the favored corridor of heavy rainfall to shift southward. The environmental ingredients for heavy rainfall look pretty good...with low level easterly convergent flow, instability of ~1000 J/KG, PWs getting towards the 75th-90th percentile, and low level easterly winds with mid/upper level westerly winds favoring slow cell motions. HREF neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 5" are as high as 60-90% over the Keys, with 8"+ probabilities over 20%. Given the ingredients and decent HREF performance Monday over southeast FL, hard to argue much with this output. Now whether these more extreme rainfall amounts end up over a Key or over water remains unclear, but pretty confident in areal averaged rainfall of 2-3" over the Keys, and there will likely be pockets of 5"+ amounts in the vicinity. Localized flash flooding is probable with this activity today into tonight. The Marginal does extend north towards Miami as well...as even though probabilities of heavy amounts are lower here, this urban corridor is more susceptible to flooding. So this extension accounts for this susceptibility and at least some lower probabilities of 3-5" rainfall amounts today. ...Northern ID into western MT... Pockets of moderate rainfall will be ongoing at 12z this morning. However snow levels will start dropping shortly after 12z, and so no longer seeing enough rainfall potential to justify a Marginal risk, as a large percentage of the QPF today/tonight will be snow or a rain/snow mix. Chenard Day 2 Valid 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 - 12Z Thu Apr 13 2023 ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ALONG AND NEAR THE CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION AND OVER SOUTHEAST FLORIDA AND NORTHERN KEYS... ...Central Gulf Coast... At least some heavy rainfall will move onshore by day 2 (Wed into Wed night) across portions of the central Gulf Coast. By this time the closed deep layer low looks to intensify, with a stronger surface low reflection also expected. We are still seeing some model spread with regards to how far inland and exactly where the heaviest rainfall ends up, but overall guidance is beginning to cluster better. The 00z EC/GFS and 00z GEFS mean and 12z EC mean show pretty good overlap with their QPF forecasts and the Marginal risk outline generally follows the depiction of these solutions. Rainfall of 1-3" seems probable within at least some of the Marginal risk, with some potential for locally higher amounts. Initially most of the better instability will be offshore over the Gulf of Mexico, but it should be gradually pulled northward towards the coast into Wednesday night. However, exactly to what extent and how far north will have an impact on rainfall rates and thus also the flash flood potential. Whether these higher rates end up confined offshore to just along the immediate coast, or if they make it inland will be partially dependent on this northward transport of instability. PWs with this system are not really that impressive as the developing cutoff low will not have a great tropical moisture connection. So while PWs will be high enough for heavy rain, at the moment it does not look like we are looking at very anomalous values (generally below 1.5"). This part of the country is generally hard to flash flood, with high FFG. Combine this with some uncertainty on the extent of onshore instability, and thus coverage of higher rainfall rates, and still think the flash flood risk is mainly localized in nature. Thus for now we will stick with the Marginal risk over this region, although we will continue to monitor trends and still a chance a more focused Slight risk upgrade may eventually be needed. ...Southeast Florida... Another day of heavy rainfall potential over southeast FL as a warm front lifts northward across the area. Given the lifting warm front, both higher instability and PWs will lift northward into more of southeast FL. Thus should be a pretty good combo of moisture and instability, along with slow cell motions given easterly low level flow and westerly mid/upper level flow. Generally it is a slightly modified version of the environment that is over the FL Keys on Tuesday, and this setup supports a localized flash flood risk along the southeast FL urban corridor. Given the ingredients, there is some chance we will eventually need a Slight risk upgrade, however there is enough uncertainty on convective details at the moment to keep it a Marginal. We'll have more high res guidance available to evaluate later today and tonight which may help clarify some of the details. Chenard Day 3 Valid 12Z Thu Apr 13 2023 - 12Z Fri Apr 14 2023 ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST... The closed deep layered low near the central Gulf Coast will lift northeastward into the Southeast Thursday into Thursday night. As it does it will be going through a weakening phase, gradually opening up into a trough. Thus while there will be an increase in ascent over the region, the magnitude of this deep layer ascent should be on a gradual lowering trend through the period. PWs will be above average, but without a robust subtropical connection anomalies are not expected to be above the 90th percentile. Thus while increasing convective coverage is likely, there remains some question regarding the organization of storms and rainfall rate potential with decreasing instability as you get away from the coast. There is enough moisture/instability/forcing present to indicate a scattered convective threat over a broad spatial extent and model QPFs generally support pockets of 1-3" of rainfall. At the moment this setup screams Marginal risk, with enough going for it to support a localized flash flood risk, but not enough environmental ingredients or QPF support for a more organized/widespread flash flood threat. Of course we'll continue to monitor trends and adjust the risk as necessary. Chenard Day 1 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt Day 2 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt Day 3 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt $$