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926 FOUS30 KWBC 120013 QPFERD Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 812 PM EDT Tue Apr 11 2023 Day 1 Valid 01Z Wed Apr 12 2023 - 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTH FLORIDA... ...Southern Louisiana... The bulk of the most intense convection will stay over the open waters as temperatures aloft cool while a closed low moves into the far northwest Gulf of Mexico, however it does appear likely that at least some heavier convective activity will impact portions of southern LA later tonight as 500-1000 J/kg of MU CAPE remains offshore/upstream and low-level inflow into the region increases around a baroclinically-initiated convective low in the central Gulf of Mexico/over the Loop Current which forms between Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning. The 18z HREF probabilities of exceeding 3" in 12 hours get above 40% along coastal areas of southeast LA with a non-zero risk of 5". These sort of formations are tricky, with model guidance sometimes shifting east by 100+ miles once a convective low forms in the Gulf of Mexico, so despite model convergence on the expected scenario, model biases with such systems suggest that uncertainty is higher than usual in the scenario the guidance currently agrees upon. Southern LA is marshy and not easy to flood, and this rainfall is expected to maximize in the early morning hours of Wednesday, should it occur, so a Marginal risk will continue to suffice. The Marginal risk around New Orleans, despite the lowered chance of 3"+, was left in place to account for any possible localized urban flood risk. ...Southeast Florida... Areas of heavy rainfall are expected to renew in the morning hours on Wednesday across portions of southeast Fl into the FL Keys as a mesoscale low moves through the FL Straits around the southeast periphery of a convective low forming across the central Gulf of Mexico. The environmental ingredients for heavy rainfall exist...with low level east to east-southeast convergent flow of ~25 kts, instability of 1000+ J/KG, PWs of 1.75"+, and mid/upper level west to southwest winds favoring slow cell motions and providing enough effective bulk shear for organized convective bands and the possibility of mesocyclone formation. HREF neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 5" in 12 hours are high close to Key West, with the probability of 3"+ highest over the entirety of the Keys. Given the ingredients available over southern FL, it's hard to rule them out from additional heavy rains during the early morning hours so the Slight Risk remains in place, though it has been shifted somewhat southwest. Over the Keys, it's always a question of whether the high amounts occur over the water or land, but isolated 5"+ amounts are quite possible ashore. Localized flash flooding is probable during the early morning hours Wednesday. The Marginal extends north towards West Palm Beach as well...as even though probabilities of heavy amounts are much lower there, the ingredients appear supportive, and the South Florida urban corridor is more susceptible to flooding. Flash flood guidance values are modest over the urban corridor due to the local 3-5" amounts which have already occurred. Roth Day 2 Valid 12Z Wed Apr 12 2023 - 12Z Thu Apr 13 2023 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR ATLANTIC COASTAL SOUTHEAST FLORIDA... ...2030Z Update... ...Southeast Florida... The Marginal Risk area for the urban corridor of Southeast Florida has been upgraded to a Slight Risk with this afternoon's update. The meteorological setup continuing into Wednesday is not substantially different from Tuesday. A slow-moving front will continue to produce convection offshore, which will be slowly advected into the coast. Plentiful instability and moisture will persist, so there remains no big reason why anything will change. The good news is that the upper level low over the Gulf will make some progress towards beginning the front's northward movement up the Florida Panhandle on Wednesday by supporting weak surface low development over the northern Gulf near the coast of Louisiana. The induced southerly flow east of the low center will allow the front to finally begin moving. That said, it will take most of the day before significant northward movement will occur. Thus, expect many of the same areas getting drenched today to continue seeing rain on Wednesday. One other small but notable change is that the nearly stationary front stuck for at least the third consecutive day means some of the forcing associated with the front is weaker by Wednesday. Thus, the total amount of rain expected in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area on Wednesday should be a little bit lower than yesterday's or today's daily rainfall totals. The trade-off of course is the area is already experiencing flash flooding and 2-4 inches of rain are still expected on top of what fell both yesterday and what falls today, so FFGs will be very low by the time we get to Wednesday. Thus, the risk assessment for Wednesday is for all intents and purposes the same as today, and therefore required the upgrade. By Wednesday night, the front will finally be moving north, so the rain will slowly end from south to north. ...Central Gulf Coast... Areas of heavy rainfall are likely to be ongoing across the central Gulf Coast, particularly in southeast Louisiana at the start of the day 2 period Wednesday morning. CAMs guidance is still in fair disagreement on how far north and where the heaviest rain will be at that point, and especially as the day goes on. For sure the greatest threat for heavy rain remains in southeastern Louisiana, but there is a fairly substantial gradient in that heavy rain by the time New Orleans gets in on the rainfall. The bayous of central Gulf coast and LA have very high FFGs, and in coordination with the LIX/New Orleans, LA forecast office, opted against any Slight Risk upgrades for this update. That said, the daily totals of over 5 inches along the Mississippi River Delta are concerning, particularly for the potential that FFGs may be exceeded. However, since it will take about that much rain to reach FFGs in that area, the Marginal Risk remains in place as that should only result in isolated flash flooding. Any northward shifts in the guidance would likely require an upgrade, as that would result in more rainfall into the urban areas of New Orleans and possibly Baton Rouge, Mobile, and Pensacola where FFGs are locally lower, while any southward shifts could result in a downgrade as the heaviest rain remains offshore. Certainly this area will continue to be monitored. Wegman ...Previous Discussion... ...Central Gulf Coast... At least some heavy rainfall will move onshore by day 2 (Wed into Wed night) across portions of the central Gulf Coast. By this time the closed deep layer low looks to intensify, with a stronger surface low reflection also expected. We are still seeing some model spread with regards to how far inland and exactly where the heaviest rainfall ends up, but overall guidance is beginning to cluster better. The 00z EC/GFS and 00z GEFS mean and 12z EC mean show pretty good overlap with their QPF forecasts and the Marginal risk outline generally follows the depiction of these solutions. Rainfall of 1-3" seems probable within at least some of the Marginal risk, with some potential for locally higher amounts. Initially most of the better instability will be offshore over the Gulf of Mexico, but it should be gradually pulled northward towards the coast into Wednesday night. However, exactly to what extent and how far north will have an impact on rainfall rates and thus also the flash flood potential. Whether these higher rates end up confined offshore to just along the immediate coast, or if they make it inland will be partially dependent on this northward transport of instability. PWs with this system are not really that impressive as the developing cutoff low will not have a great tropical moisture connection. So while PWs will be high enough for heavy rain, at the moment it does not look like we are looking at very anomalous values (generally below 1.5"). This part of the country is generally hard to flash flood, with high FFG. Combine this with some uncertainty on the extent of onshore instability, and thus coverage of higher rainfall rates, and still think the flash flood risk is mainly localized in nature. Thus for now we will stick with the Marginal risk over this region, although we will continue to monitor trends and still a chance a more focused Slight risk upgrade may eventually be needed. ...Southeast Florida... Another day of heavy rainfall potential over southeast FL as a warm front lifts northward across the area. Given the lifting warm front, both higher instability and PWs will lift northward into more of southeast FL. Thus should be a pretty good combo of moisture and instability, along with slow cell motions given easterly low level flow and westerly mid/upper level flow. Generally it is a slightly modified version of the environment that is over the FL Keys on Tuesday, and this setup supports a localized flash flood risk along the southeast FL urban corridor. Given the ingredients, there is some chance we will eventually need a Slight risk upgrade, however there is enough uncertainty on convective details at the moment to keep it a Marginal. We'll have more high res guidance available to evaluate later today and tonight which may help clarify some of the details. Chenard Day 3 Valid 12Z Thu Apr 13 2023 - 12Z Fri Apr 14 2023 ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST... ...2030Z Update... Mostly cosmetic changes were made to the Marginal Risk area covering portions of the Southeast on Thursday. The upper level low that starts the day over Louisiana will begin to open up into a negatively tilted trough as it moves northeastward across the Southeast. As the trough lifts northeastward, the associated rain shield will move along with it. In addition to slowly diminishing maximum rainfall totals, the area of real-estate expected to get significant rainfall will increase due to the moving upper level pattern. The very high FFGs from north Florida through Alabama and Georgia will substantially limit the overall flash flooding threat, so the Marginal risk will remain in place largely for urbanized and other flooding-sensitive areas seeing isolated flooding with any training cells. While the forecast QPF has increased from the overnight issuance, the maximum potential remains well below FFGs for almost all of the Marginal Risk area. It remains to be seen how the forecast rainfall amounts will change once CAMs get to resolve this event, but it appears unlikely at this point that any upgrades to a Slight risk will be needed. Wegman ...Previous Discussion... The closed deep layered low near the central Gulf Coast will lift northeastward into the Southeast Thursday into Thursday night. As it does it will be going through a weakening phase, gradually opening up into a trough. Thus while there will be an increase in ascent over the region, the magnitude of this deep layer ascent should be on a gradual lowering trend through the period. PWs will be above average, but without a robust subtropical connection anomalies are not expected to be above the 90th percentile. Thus while increasing convective coverage is likely, there remains some question regarding the organization of storms and rainfall rate potential with decreasing instability as you get away from the coast. There is enough moisture/instability/forcing present to indicate a scattered convective threat over a broad spatial extent and model QPFs generally support pockets of 1-3" of rainfall. At the moment this setup screams Marginal risk, with enough going for it to support a localized flash flood risk, but not enough environmental ingredients or QPF support for a more organized/widespread flash flood threat. Of course we'll continue to monitor trends and adjust the risk as necessary. Chenard Day 1 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt Day 2 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt Day 3 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt $$