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492 FXUS63 KLSX 011739 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED AVIATION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1239 PM CDT Tue Oct 1 2013 .UPDATE: Issued at 921 AM CDT Tue Oct 1 2013 Clouds continue to hold a bit longer than prev anticipated. Based on early guidance, have kept clouds lingering into the early afternoon and cooled temps thru the morning. Only minor changes were made to the max temps expected today as temps shud jump quickly once clouds begin to break up. && .SHORT TERM: (Through Late This Afternoon) Issued at 215 AM CDT Tue Oct 1 2013 Early this morning: the upper level ridge has rebuilt into our area from the southern plains and lower MS valley, promising to maintain the above average temps that have been commonplace since late August. At the surface, a light southerly flow prevails, around the backside of an area of high pressure centered over the southern Appalachians. Temps have fallen into the 60s, which is mild for this time of year, and any further falls are being hampered by large swaths of stratus clouds that have taken off just before midnight and are expanding northward with the prevailing wind. Given the mixier environment, visibilities have not suffered much in the way of hits unlike last night, with MVFR conditions or better observed. Visibilities are expected to continue to behave themselves and stay above 1 mile for the vast majority of sites but will continue to monitor. The stratus, in the meantime, is expected to expand over much of the forecast area, with NE MO being the last to be affected or remaining on the edge by 15z, when the stratus should then start to dissipate around its edges. Some areas, however, may not see much sun until early afternoon if yesterday was any gage, and have went conservative with temp rises today in most places except the far north which should get the sun first and longest: look for max temps from the upper 70s in SE MO to the mid 80s in NE MO-W Central IL. A more moist atmospheric column is expected to build in to our area today from the south, with PWs rising to around 1.3" by conservative estimates. The one thing lacking is a decent trigger aloft or at the surface, but for lack of anything else, the eastern Ozarks of SE MO tend to provide enough local effects to support isolated SHRA in an environment anticipated to have little-no CINH. TES .LONG TERM: (Tonight through Monday) Issued at 320 AM CDT Tue Oct 1 2013 Will likely have stratus clouds and patchy fog across sern MO and swrn IL tgt. A weak front will sag swd into nern MO and w cntrl IL by 12z Wednesday, then lift back n-newd on Wednesday. The chance of showers and thunderstorms will return to much of the area on Wednesday as a weak upper level low moves nwd then newd from the Gulf Coast states and into the Tennessee Valley region, while weak sw flow shortwaves move newd through the area. Low level moisture will be also increasing and gradually getting deeper over our area with increasing instability. Will inclulde chance pops over the srn two thirds of our forecast area on Wednesday, then over the entire area on Wednesday ngt. The GFS model appears too high on pops and qpf for Wednesday ngt. The best potential for convection on Thursday should be across IL. Despite the low level cloud cover and scattered convection unseasonably warm weather can be expected on Wednesday and Thursday with highs at least 10 degrees above normal. The NAM model develops convection across nrn MO and w cntrl IL Thursday ngt with a swly low level jet through nwrn MO over a front sagging sewd into nwrn MO by 12z Friday. Will include chance pops over this area Thursday ngt, although it appears that the NAM model may be a little too far south with this front. Friday should be the last unseasonably warm day with strong s-swly sfc/low level flow ahead of a developing upper level low over the nrn Plains and associated surface low moving newd through the Plains. The best potential for convection, possibly strong will be Friday night as the deepening surface low moves newd into the nrn Plains and drags a strong cold front sewd through our area. Precipitation may continue across the sern half of our forecast area on Saturday, and then shift se of our forecast area by Saturday night as much colder and less humid air filters sewd into the region with 850 mb temperatures dropping to about 4-8 degrees C. Below normal temperatures can be expected Saturday ngt through Sunday ngt as a deep upper level trough moves slowly ewd through the region, possibly closing off into an upper level low. GKS && .AVIATION: (For the 18z TAFs through 18z Wednesday Afternoon) Issued at 1226 PM CDT Tue Oct 1 2013 Expect similar events to unfold tonight as what happened this morning. Current cloud deck will continue to lift and/or dissipate this afternoon and evening. ST/FG shud redevelop late tonight and move back into the region. ST/FG will once again be slow to burn off and lift tomorrow. Otherwise, sly winds thru the period. Specifics for KSTL: Expect similar events tonight as this morning. Cigs may need to be lowered for late tonight into Wed morning, but believe trends are in the right direction. Latest guidance suggests shra with isod ts may impact the terminal late in the TAF period. With uncertainty in timing, will leave TAF dry for now and allow future updates to pin down timing. Tilly && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES: MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX