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Product Timestamp: 2012-06-08 07:54 UTC
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800 FXUS63 KMPX 080754 AFDMPX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN 254 AM CDT FRI JUN 8 2012 .DISCUSSION... THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED TOO MUCH WITH RESPECT TO FORECAST EXPECTATIONS AND CONCERNS IN COMPARISON TO YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. THE MAIN FORECAST ISSUE STILL LOOKS TO BE THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE WIDESPREAD CONVECTION AND THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME SEVERE WEATHER SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER... IN THE SHORTER TERM WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE SOME CONVECTION TODAY INTO THIS EVENING AS SOME ISENTROPIC LIFT PERSISTS OVER THE THE REGION WITH SOME ELEVATED CAPE STILL IN PLACE. AS THE UPPER RIDGE TO OUR WEST FLATTENS AND IS KICKED EASTWARD IN ADVANCE OF THE WESTERN TROUGH WE SHOULD SEE THE MAIN 850MB THETA-E RIDGE GET DISPLACED TO OUR NORTH AND EAST TONIGHT... WITH WARMER AIR CONTINUING TO WORK IN AT LOW LEVELS. THAT SHOULD ALLOW FOR ANY PCPN TO END TONIGHT AND ALLOW FOR A DRY SATURDAY. THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE TRENDED TOWARD ONE ANOTHER TO SOME EXTENT... WITH SOME NOTABLE DIFFERENCES STILL EVIDENT BEYOND MONDAY... ALTHOUGH LESS THAN WITH PREVIOUS FORECASTS. WILL STICK CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST... AND MAINLY JUST BLEND WITH THE LATEST MIDDLE OF THE ROAD COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND GFS. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE THAT LOOKS TO IMPACT OUR POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER ON SUNDAY IS THAT BOTH SOLUTIONS NOW AGREE ON A SOMEWHAT SLOWER ARRIVAL OF THE COLD FRONT ON SUNDAY... WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR GREATER DESTABILIZATION. IN ADDITION... BOTH WOULD IMPLY BETTER AND MORE FOCUSED LARGE SCALE FORCING ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF THE AREA AS A STRONG UPPER JET WRAPS AROUND THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS SUNDAY INTO SUNDAY EVENING. FOR TODAY... CONTINUED TO MENTION SOME CHANCE FOR SHRA/TSRA OVER THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN CWFA WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED BROAD WARM ADVECTION AND INSTABILITY IN PLACE. 850-500MB DIFFERENTIAL THETA-E PROGS SHOW CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY IN PLACE FOR ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS... ALTHOUGH UNTIL SUNDAY TODAY INTO THIS EVENING IS THE ONLY TIME FRAME WHEN IT LOOKS TO COINCIDE WITH SOME LARGE SCALE FORCING AND SATURATION NEAR THE LFC. THE WARM SECTOR REALLY SURGES NORTH THROUGH THE AREA ON SATURDAY... AND TEMPERATURES AOA 90 DEGREES STILL LOOK LIKE A GOOD BET FOR MOST OF THE AREA... WITH SOME MID 90S NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF MIXING. WITH THE WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY PUSHED WELL NORTH OF THE AREA WE SHOULDN/T HAVE ANY PCPN TO WORRY ABOUT... AND ANY DEBRIS CLOUDINESS FROM UPSTREAM CONVECTION SHOULD STAY TO OUR NORTH AND WEST BASED UPON EXPECTED MID-UPPER LEVEL WINDS. THE PRESSURE GRADIENT INCREASES THROUGH THE DAY... SO SOME FAIRLY GUSTY WINDS WILL ACCOMPANY THE WARM TEMPERATURES... WITH MAY HELP KEEP IT FROM FEELING TOO UNCOMFORTABLE. ON SUNDAY INTO SUNDAY EVENING... ATTENTION WILL TURN TOWARD THE MAIN UPPER TROUGH MOVING OUT INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS FEATURE WILL INTENSITY A SURFACE LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN MANITOBA BY SUNDAY EVENING... WITH A SHARP COLD FRONT EXTENDING SOUTH THROUGH CENTRAL MINNESOTA. THE AIRMASS AHEAD OF THIS FRONT LOOKS TO BE QUITE JUICY... WITH PROGGED MLCAPE VALUES FROM THE GFS AND ECMWF BOTH AOA 1500 J/KG AND QUITE POSSIBLY ABV 2500 J/KG. THE BEST DEEP LAYER SHEAR WILL BE STARTING TO ARRIVE AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES INTO THE AREA... AND IT APPEARS WE SHOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT DEEP LAYER SHEAR FOR STORM ORGANIZATION... PERHAPS INITIALLY AS SUPERCELLS BUT WITH A TRANSITION TO A LINEAR MODE SEEMING LIKELY GIVEN A GOOD MODEL CONSENSUS ON A RAPIDLY WEAKENING CAP THROUGH THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING WITH FAIRLY WIDESPREAD TSRA ACTIVITY DEVELOPING. LOW LEVEL SHEAR LOOKS TO BE MAXIMIZED TO OUR NORTH... WHERE WINDS WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF BEING BACKED DUE TO PROXIMITY TO THE SURFACE LOW AND WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY. HOWEVER... THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME CHANCE FOR A TORNADO FARTHER SOUTH INTO OUR AREA INITIALLY PRIOR TO ANY TRANSITION TO A LINEAR MODE OF CONVECTION. BUT... THE PRIMARY THREATS STILL LOOK TO BE THE POTENTIAL FOR LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND GUSTS SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. SOME PCPN MAY LINGER INTO MONDAY AS THE COLD FRONT SLOWLY WORKS ITS WAY EAST THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA. ALLOWED FOR DRY WEATHER FROM MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT... ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL FOR A FEW SHRA DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE UPPER TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED MID-LEVEL COLD POOL LINGER IN THE AREA. THE GFS HAS QUICKENED ITS DEPARTURE IN COMPARISON TO ITS PREVIOUS RUNS WHILE THE ECMWF HAS SLOWED ITS DEPARTURE. GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AND THE EXPECTATION THAT THINGS WOULD MAINLY BE SCATTERED SHOWERS OVER ONLY A PORTION OF THE AREA... OPTED TO LEAVE ANY MENTION OUT FOR NOW. HOWEVER... DID BRING BACK A CHANCE OF SHRA/TSRA FOR WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY AS WE LOOK TO GET ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SURFACE HIGH AND SEE SOME RETURN FLOW SETUP ACROSS THE REGION IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT SHORTWAVE. && .AVIATION.../06Z TAF ISSUANCE/ /ISSUED 1236 AM CDT FRI JUN 8 2012/ OUTSIDE OF WEST CENTRAL WI...JUST MID/HIGH CLOUDS THIS MORNING. A LINE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED IN WI...BUT SHOULD LARGELY BE OUT OF THE AREA AFTER SUNRISE. VFR EXPECTED TODAY WITH STRONG SOUTHERLY WINDS. KMSP...VFR EXPECTED WITH THE SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY REMAINING WELL NORTHEAST OF THE AIRPORT. MUCH STRONGER S-SW WINDS EXPECTED BY THE EARLY AFTERNOON. .OUTLOOK SATURDAY AND SUNDAY...VFR. SUNDAY NIGHT...CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$