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FXUS66 KSEW 180010
AFDSEW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
410 PM PST WED DEC 17 2008

.SYNOPSIS...A COLD LOW PRESSURE CENTER OVER SOUTHERN VANCOUVER 
ISLAND THIS AFTERNOON WILL DRIFT SOUTH ALONG THE COAST TONIGHT AND 
THURSDAY. COLD HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE INTERIOR OF BRITISH COLUMBIA 
WILL SPREAD SUB-FREEZING WEATHER BACK INTO WESTERN WASHINGTON ON 
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. A STRONGER WEATHER SYSTEM WILL SPREAD IN FROM 
THE PACIFIC ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY...BRINGING ANOTHER RISK OF 
SNOW. THE WEATHER PATTERN COULD AGAIN BECOME UNSETTLED ON CHRISTMAS 
EVE. 

&&

.SHORT TERM...SURFACE LOW CENTER CAUSED STRONGER ONSHORE FLOW THAN 
EXPECTED TODAY WITH ENOUGH WARMING TO BRING A CHANGEOVER TO RAIN IN 
A FEW PLACES...MOST NOTABLY THE CENTRAL COAST...CHEHALIS GAP...AND 
ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SHORELINE OF THE STRAIT. ELSEWHERE...PRECIP 
REMAINED SNOW. SKAGIT COUNTY AND NORTH ISLAND COUNTY WERE THE SNOW 
WINNERS TODAY WITH WIDESPREAD AMOUNTS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES UP THERE. IN 
ADDITION...THE CENTRAL SOUND REMAINED IN THE PRECIP SHADOW OF THE 
OLYMPICS FOR MOST OF THE DAY.

THINGS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. COLDER AIR ALOFT IS NOW WRAPPING AROUND 
THE LOW CENTER INTO WRN WA...SO MANY LOCATIONS WHICH HAD RAIN 
EARLIER ARE ALREADY CHANGING BACK OVER TO SNOW. BY LATE THIS 
EVENING...THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW OVER ALL OF 
WRN WA. THE BAND OF HEAVY SNOW THAT BROUGHT THE HEFTY SNOW TOTALS TO 
SKAGIT AND ISLAND COUNTIES EARLIER HAS SHIFTED SOUTH INTO SNOHOMISH 
COUNTY WITH KPAE VSBY DOWN AT 1/4SM IN SNOW AT 2339Z. THIS WILL 
LIKELY BRING HEAVY SNOW TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH SNOHOMISH COUNTY OVER 
THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 4 INCHES LIKELY. MOST 
GUIDANCE SHIFTS THIS BAND OF SNOW DOWN INTO NORTH KING COUNTY EARLY 
THIS EVENING AND THEN CENTRAL AND SOUTH KING COUNTY BY LATE EVENING 
AND OVERNIGHT. THE BAND OF SNOW MAY START TO WEAKEN LATE TONIGHT BUT 
WILL LIKELY BRING 1-3 INCHES OF SNOW...LOCALLY TO 4 INCHES OVER 
NORTH KING COUNTY...TONIGHT. THE SEATTLE METRO AREA WILL PROBABLY 
WAKE UP TO A FEW LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS ON THU MORNING.

OUTSIDE OF THESE AREA...A COLD AND UNSTABLE ATMOSPHERE WILL MEAN 
BRIEF BURSTS OF HEAVY SNOW OUT OF CONVECTIVE SHOWERS. IN THIS TYPE 
OF REGIME...SOME LOCATIONS GET A HEFTY DUMP OF SNOW WHILE OTHER 
NEARBY LOCATIONS GET VERY LITTLE. THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE CASE SE OF 
UIL-PWT-SMP TONIGHT AND EVEN THU MORNING. ONCE THE LOW CENTER SHIFT 
SOUTH ON THU AFTN...DRIER CONTINENTAL POLAR AIR SPRAEDS IN FROM THE 
NORTH AND SHOULD CAUSE PRECIP TO TAPER OFF ON THU AND THU NIGHT.

BEYOND THAT...ANOTHER FRIGID AIR MASS SPREADS OUT OF THE B.C. 
INTERIOR INTO WRN WA WITH STRONG FRASER OUTFLOW WINDS RE-DEVELOPING 
ON THU AND CONTINUING INTO FRI. THIS WILL USHER IN ANOTHER 
SUB-FREEZING AIR MASS INTO WRN WA SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW HERE FROM 
SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.    HANER

.LONG TERM...MODELS ALL AGREE ON BRINGING A WEATHER SYSTEM OFF THE 
PACIFIC ON SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT. SOME ASPECTS 
DEPICTED BY COMPUTER MODELS ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING. WITH STRONG 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND A BITTERLY COLD AIR MASS EAST OF THE 
CASCADES...VERY STRONG EASTERLY PRES GRADIENTS WILL DEVELOP AS THE 
SYSTEM APPROACHES. THE 12Z UW WRF-GFS SHOWS POTENTIAL MOUNTAIN WAVE 
DEVELOPMENT ON SUNDAY MORNING BETWEEN I-5 AND THE CASCADES. IT PEAKS 
SUSTAINED EASERLY SURFACE WINDS NEAR NORTH BEND AT 59 KTS SUN 
MORNING. IN ADDITION...MEX MOS FOR SMP ON SUNDAY SHOWS A HIGH OF 9F 
THERE. EVEN APPLYING A GENEROUS DRY ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES ON THE 
HEELS OF ELY WINDS ALL THE WAY TO KSEA...TEMPS AT KSEA ON SUN 
MORNING WOULD BE IN THE UPPER 20S. MEANWHILE...TEMPS ALOFT COULD 
RISE VERY QUICKLY. BOTH THE 12Z AND 18Z GFS RAISE TEMPS WITHIN THE 
ATMOSPHERIC LAYER CONTAINING THE STRONGEST LIFT INTO THE -4C TO -6C 
RANGE. PRECIP GENERATED WITHIN THIS LAYER WOULD FALL IN THE FORM OF 
SUPERCOOLED WATER DROPLETS AND FREEZE UPON CONTACT WITH THE SURFACE. 
OTHER LOCATIONS...OF COURSE...WOULD GET RAIN AND HEAVY SNOW. 
NEEDLESS TO SAY...THE THREAT OF HIGH WIND...HEAVY SNOW...AND EVEN 
FREEZING RAIN BEARS CLOSE WATCH ON SUNDAY. 

BEYOND THAT...THINGS DRY OUT AGAIN ON MONDAY. YET ANOTHER SYSTEM 
ARRIVES ON TUE. THIS LOOKS LIKE A WARMER SYSTEM. THERE COULD BE SOME 
LOWLAND SNOW TO START THINGS OFF...BUT A WARMUP AND DECIDED 
CHANGEOVER TO LOWLAND RAIN IS INDICATED ON CHRISTMAS EVE DAY.
HANER

&&

.AVIATION...BROAD CLOSED UPPER LEVEL LOW REMAINS ANCHORED ACROSS 
SOUTHERN B.C. THIS AFTERNOON WHILE SURFACE TROUGH LIES ACROSS W WA. 
FOCUS FOR SNOW SHOWERS REMAINS ACROSS THE NORTHERN ZONES WHERE THE 
BULK OF THE MOISTURE RESIDES ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. COMBINATION 
OF NORTHERLY FLOW THROUGH THE FRASER RIVER VALLEY AND SOUTHERLY 
ONSHORE FLOW IS RESULTING IN A FOCUSED BAND OF PRECIP THAT IS MOVING 
THROUGH SNOHOMISH COUNTY. THIS BAND OF SHOWERS MAY SLIDE FARTHER 
SOUTH THIS EVENING WITH HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE. DOWNSLOPE OFF 
THE OLYMPICS IS KEEPING THE CENTRAL SOUND DRY AT THE MOMENT...BUT 
SHOULD START TO SEE PRECIP FILL IN THIS EVENING. THE SOUTH COAST 
REMAINS THE WARMEST AREA IN THE REGION WITH MOSTLY RAIN SHOWERS 
EXPECTED THROUGH THE EVENING. SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS 
THE ENTIRE REGION OVERNIGHT AS TEMPS DIP BACK DOWN TO BELOW 
FREEZING. 

KSEA...MAIN CHALLENGE THIS EVENING IS WHETHER OR NOT THE BAND OF 
SHOWERS WILL SLIDE FARTHER SOUTH INTO SEATAC. NEW 18Z NAM12 KEEPS 
WINDS SOUTHERLY WHICH KEEPS THE HEAVIER SHOWERS N OR THE AREA. TOUGH 
CALL SO WILL NEED TO WATCH THIS FEATURE CLOSELY. MODELS SHOW A 
POSSIBILITY OF SNOW THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...THEN DECREASING 
SHOWERS BY THE AFTERNOON. 33

&&

.MARINE...A SURFACE TROUGH WILL SLOWLY MOVE SOUTH INTO W WA THIS 
EVENING WITH SMALL CRAFT WINDS PERSISTING ACROSS MOST WATERS. WILL 
HOLD ONTO A GALE WARNING FOR THE PUGET SOUND/HOOD CANAL AREA EARLY 
THIS EVENING...WITH WINDS EASING BY 04Z. MAIN FOCUS FOR THU IS 
STRONG OUTFLOW WINDS FROM THE FRASER RIVER VALLEY. THERE IS ALREADY 
A GALE WATCH FOR THE N INLAND WATERS AND E ENTRANCE JUAN DE FUCA 
WHICH STILL LOOKS GOOD AT THIS POINT...WITH STRONGEST WINDS 
DEVELOPING IN THE AFTERNOON. NELY WINDS OVER THE N WATERS WILL 
CONTINUE ON FRI...THEN E/SE OFFSHORE FLOW WILL DEVELOP OVER THE 
WEEKEND AS A STRONGER SYSTEM DEVELOPS OFF THE COAST. 33

&&

SEW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WA...WINTER STORM WARNING FOR STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA...WESTERN 
WHATCOM AND SKAGIT COUNTIES...SAN JUAN COUNTY...ADMIRALTY 
INLET...EVERETT AND VICINITY...THE EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS...THE 
NORTH COAST...AND THE OLYMPIC AND CASCADE MOUNTAINS.
  ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE SEATTLE/TACOMA AREAS...HOOD 
CANAL...THE SOUTHWEST INTERIOR...AND LOWER CHEHALIS VALLEY. 
  ...HIGH WIND WATCH FOR SAN JUAN AND WESTERN WHATCOM COUNTIES.

PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ALL WATERS EXCEPT GALE WARNING FOR PUGET 
SOUND/HOOD CANAL UNTIL 8PM THIS EVENING.
  ...GALE WATCH THURSDAY FOR EAST ENTRANCE TO THE STRAIT AND NORTH 
INLAND WATERS.






000 
FXUS66 KSEW 180053 CCA
AFDSEW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED FORMAT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
410 PM PST WED DEC 17 2008

.SYNOPSIS...A COLD LOW PRESSURE CENTER OVER SOUTHERN VANCOUVER 
ISLAND THIS AFTERNOON WILL DRIFT SOUTH ALONG THE COAST TONIGHT AND 
THURSDAY. COLD HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE INTERIOR OF BRITISH COLUMBIA 
WILL SPREAD SUB-FREEZING WEATHER BACK INTO WESTERN WASHINGTON ON 
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. A STRONGER WEATHER SYSTEM WILL SPREAD IN FROM 
THE PACIFIC ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY...BRINGING ANOTHER RISK OF 
SNOW. THE WEATHER PATTERN COULD AGAIN BECOME UNSETTLED ON CHRISTMAS 
EVE. 

&&

.SHORT TERM...SURFACE LOW CENTER CAUSED STRONGER ONSHORE FLOW THAN 
EXPECTED TODAY WITH ENOUGH WARMING TO BRING A CHANGEOVER TO RAIN IN 
A FEW PLACES...MOST NOTABLY THE CENTRAL COAST...CHEHALIS GAP...AND 
ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SHORELINE OF THE STRAIT. ELSEWHERE...PRECIP 
REMAINED SNOW. SKAGIT COUNTY AND NORTH ISLAND COUNTY WERE THE SNOW 
WINNERS TODAY WITH WIDESPREAD AMOUNTS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES UP THERE. IN 
ADDITION...THE CENTRAL SOUND REMAINED IN THE PRECIP SHADOW OF THE 
OLYMPICS FOR MOST OF THE DAY.

THINGS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. COLDER AIR ALOFT IS NOW WRAPPING AROUND 
THE LOW CENTER INTO WRN WA...SO MANY LOCATIONS WHICH HAD RAIN 
EARLIER ARE ALREADY CHANGING BACK OVER TO SNOW. BY LATE THIS 
EVENING...THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW OVER ALL OF 
WRN WA. THE BAND OF HEAVY SNOW THAT BROUGHT THE HEFTY SNOW TOTALS TO 
SKAGIT AND ISLAND COUNTIES EARLIER HAS SHIFTED SOUTH INTO SNOHOMISH 
COUNTY WITH KPAE VSBY DOWN AT 1/4SM IN SNOW AT 2339Z. THIS WILL 
LIKELY BRING HEAVY SNOW TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH SNOHOMISH COUNTY OVER 
THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 4 INCHES LIKELY. MOST 
GUIDANCE SHIFTS THIS BAND OF SNOW DOWN INTO NORTH KING COUNTY EARLY 
THIS EVENING AND THEN CENTRAL AND SOUTH KING COUNTY BY LATE EVENING 
AND OVERNIGHT. THE BAND OF SNOW MAY START TO WEAKEN LATE TONIGHT BUT 
WILL LIKELY BRING 1-3 INCHES OF SNOW...LOCALLY TO 4 INCHES OVER 
NORTH KING COUNTY...TONIGHT. THE SEATTLE METRO AREA WILL PROBABLY 
WAKE UP TO A FEW LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS ON THU MORNING.

OUTSIDE OF THESE AREA...A COLD AND UNSTABLE ATMOSPHERE WILL MEAN 
BRIEF BURSTS OF HEAVY SNOW OUT OF CONVECTIVE SHOWERS. IN THIS TYPE 
OF REGIME...SOME LOCATIONS GET A HEFTY DUMP OF SNOW WHILE OTHER 
NEARBY LOCATIONS GET VERY LITTLE. THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE CASE SE OF 
UIL-PWT-SMP TONIGHT AND EVEN THU MORNING. ONCE THE LOW CENTER SHIFT 
SOUTH ON THU AFTN...DRIER CONTINENTAL POLAR AIR SPRAEDS IN FROM THE 
NORTH AND SHOULD CAUSE PRECIP TO TAPER OFF ON THU AND THU NIGHT.

BEYOND THAT...ANOTHER FRIGID AIR MASS SPREADS OUT OF THE B.C. 
INTERIOR INTO WRN WA WITH STRONG FRASER OUTFLOW WINDS RE-DEVELOPING 
ON THU AND CONTINUING INTO FRI. THIS WILL USHER IN ANOTHER 
SUB-FREEZING AIR MASS INTO WRN WA SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW HERE FROM 
SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.    HANER

.LONG TERM...MODELS ALL AGREE ON BRINGING A WEATHER SYSTEM OFF THE 
PACIFIC ON SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT. SOME ASPECTS 
DEPICTED BY COMPUTER MODELS ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING. WITH STRONG 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND A BITTERLY COLD AIR MASS EAST OF THE 
CASCADES...VERY STRONG EASTERLY PRES GRADIENTS WILL DEVELOP AS THE 
SYSTEM APPROACHES. THE 12Z UW WRF-GFS SHOWS POTENTIAL MOUNTAIN WAVE 
DEVELOPMENT ON SUNDAY MORNING BETWEEN I-5 AND THE CASCADES. IT PEAKS 
SUSTAINED EASERLY SURFACE WINDS NEAR NORTH BEND AT 59 KTS SUN 
MORNING. IN ADDITION...MEX MOS FOR SMP ON SUNDAY SHOWS A HIGH OF 9F 
THERE. EVEN APPLYING A GENEROUS DRY ADIABATIC LAPSE RATES ON THE 
HEELS OF ELY WINDS ALL THE WAY TO KSEA...TEMPS AT KSEA ON SUN 
MORNING WOULD BE IN THE UPPER 20S. MEANWHILE...TEMPS ALOFT COULD 
RISE VERY QUICKLY. BOTH THE 12Z AND 18Z GFS RAISE TEMPS WITHIN THE 
ATMOSPHERIC LAYER CONTAINING THE STRONGEST LIFT INTO THE -4C TO -6C 
RANGE. PRECIP GENERATED WITHIN THIS LAYER WOULD FALL IN THE FORM OF 
SUPERCOOLED WATER DROPLETS AND FREEZE UPON CONTACT WITH THE SURFACE. 
OTHER LOCATIONS...OF COURSE...WOULD GET RAIN AND HEAVY SNOW. 
NEEDLESS TO SAY...THE THREAT OF HIGH WIND...HEAVY SNOW...AND EVEN 
FREEZING RAIN BEARS CLOSE WATCH ON SUNDAY. 

BEYOND THAT...THINGS DRY OUT AGAIN ON MONDAY. YET ANOTHER SYSTEM 
ARRIVES ON TUE. THIS LOOKS LIKE A WARMER SYSTEM. THERE COULD BE SOME 
LOWLAND SNOW TO START THINGS OFF...BUT A WARMUP AND DECIDED 
CHANGEOVER TO LOWLAND RAIN IS INDICATED ON CHRISTMAS EVE DAY.
HANER

&&

.AVIATION...BROAD CLOSED UPPER LEVEL LOW REMAINS ANCHORED ACROSS 
SOUTHERN B.C. THIS AFTERNOON WHILE SURFACE TROUGH LIES ACROSS W WA. 
FOCUS FOR SNOW SHOWERS REMAINS ACROSS THE NORTHERN ZONES WHERE THE 
BULK OF THE MOISTURE RESIDES ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. COMBINATION 
OF NORTHERLY FLOW THROUGH THE FRASER RIVER VALLEY AND SOUTHERLY 
ONSHORE FLOW IS RESULTING IN A FOCUSED BAND OF PRECIP THAT IS MOVING 
THROUGH SNOHOMISH COUNTY. THIS BAND OF SHOWERS MAY SLIDE FARTHER 
SOUTH THIS EVENING WITH HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE. DOWNSLOPE OFF 
THE OLYMPICS IS KEEPING THE CENTRAL SOUND DRY AT THE MOMENT...BUT 
SHOULD START TO SEE PRECIP FILL IN THIS EVENING. THE SOUTH COAST 
REMAINS THE WARMEST AREA IN THE REGION WITH MOSTLY RAIN SHOWERS 
EXPECTED THROUGH THE EVENING. SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS 
THE ENTIRE REGION OVERNIGHT AS TEMPS DIP BACK DOWN TO BELOW 
FREEZING. 

KSEA...MAIN CHALLENGE THIS EVENING IS WHETHER OR NOT THE BAND OF 
SHOWERS WILL SLIDE FARTHER SOUTH INTO SEATAC. NEW 18Z NAM12 KEEPS 
WINDS SOUTHERLY WHICH KEEPS THE HEAVIER SHOWERS N OR THE AREA. TOUGH 
CALL SO WILL NEED TO WATCH THIS FEATURE CLOSELY. MODELS SHOW A 
POSSIBILITY OF SNOW THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...THEN DECREASING 
SHOWERS BY THE AFTERNOON. 33

&&

.MARINE...A SURFACE TROUGH WILL SLOWLY MOVE SOUTH INTO W WA THIS 
EVENING WITH SMALL CRAFT WINDS PERSISTING ACROSS MOST WATERS. WILL 
HOLD ONTO A GALE WARNING FOR THE PUGET SOUND/HOOD CANAL AREA EARLY 
THIS EVENING...WITH WINDS EASING BY 04Z. MAIN FOCUS FOR THU IS 
STRONG OUTFLOW WINDS FROM THE FRASER RIVER VALLEY. THERE IS ALREADY 
A GALE WATCH FOR THE N INLAND WATERS AND E ENTRANCE JUAN DE FUCA 
WHICH STILL LOOKS GOOD AT THIS POINT...WITH STRONGEST WINDS 
DEVELOPING IN THE AFTERNOON. NELY WINDS OVER THE N WATERS WILL 
CONTINUE ON FRI...THEN E/SE OFFSHORE FLOW WILL DEVELOP OVER THE 
WEEKEND AS A STRONGER SYSTEM DEVELOPS OFF THE COAST. 33

&&

SEW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WA...WINTER STORM WARNING FOR STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA...WESTERN 
WHATCOM AND SKAGIT COUNTIES...SAN JUAN COUNTY...ADMIRALTY 
INLET...EVERETT AND VICINITY...THE EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS...THE 
NORTH COAST...AND THE OLYMPIC AND CASCADE MOUNTAINS.
  ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE SEATTLE/TACOMA AREAS...HOOD 
CANAL...THE SOUTHWEST INTERIOR...AND LOWER CHEHALIS VALLEY. 
  ...HIGH WIND WATCH FOR SAN JUAN AND WESTERN WHATCOM COUNTIES.

PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ALL WATERS EXCEPT GALE WARNING FOR PUGET 
SOUND/HOOD CANAL UNTIL 8PM THIS EVENING.
  ...GALE WATCH THURSDAY FOR EAST ENTRANCE TO THE STRAIT AND NORTH 
INLAND WATERS.

$$

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